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There have been arguments and flame wars lately that have been troubling and should be discussed by the members of this site.

For starters, we should all stay open-minded to the fact that any situation can be perceived very differently by different people.

In other words, an argument between two members can get 'colorful' and intense. Some people (like me) view that as entertainment, 'locking horns' and a harmless part of human interaction with little or no consequence. At the same time, other people feel that such behavior is obnoxious, offensive and insulting (a completely understandable position). Perceptions can vary immensely and it's all a part of being human.

So, having stated the above, I think that we, as an Internet group, tend to 'visit' the extremes and would probably do better to find a 'middle ground' where we can keep the majority of members happy and satisfied. For one thing, that will take an effort by guys like me (at the one extreme) to tone it down and think of the sentiments of others when posting. On the other side of the coin, it would be beneficial for the quiet, mild-mannered and conservative members to be open-minded and understand that some individuals have an intense personality and indulge themselves in 'free expression' from time to time.

It is all a matter of compromise (let's all meet in the middle) as well as common courtesy and I will be the first to admit that I need work in that area. And I am willing to improve my behavior for the sake of the wellness of the site.

Most importantly, I think that we must ensure that our situation with modularfords is preserved. We have a good thing going here and we all benefit from the forum.

There are other issues as well. I talk to several members and consider many my friends. I have heard other concerns lately, in addition to the flame wars, which should be addressed and discussed openly as well - to ensure smooth operations and overall satisfaction for us on this board.

One issue that appears to be potent and threaten our well-being is vendor solicitation. On one hand, there are vendors that use proper channels to secure a means of advertisement within the site. Each site has its procedures and methods for advertisement and those policies should be respected and practiced or there is no order and no integrity to the site.

On the other hand, there is the fundamental purpose of such sites and member congregations: an open forum for fellowship and information sharing. Many of us have seen where commercialism and stringent rules can actually hinder the flow of information and knowledge among site members. Such a compromise taints the purpose for special interest groups in the first place!

Unfortunately, these are not 'black and white' issues. There are many gray areas. And both sides of this debate are completely valid.

If I am a vendor and I follow proper procedures, requirements and regulations to become a sponsor or official vendor, I am not going to be happy if other vendors break the rules and advertise for free or without authorization (whatever authorization entails). I don't blame any vendor for being upset under such circumstances.

On the other hand, as an enthusiast and site member, I get upset at the thought that some small vendor out there has a great new part or mod but is reluctant to communicate it with us due to the rules, consequences and inevitable perceptions that go with it.

I believe that Eric Brooks, the site owner, is interested in - as his top priority - ensuring that the members of his board are happy and satisfied.

So please take some time to offer input so we can get an idea as to 'where we're at' as a group with these important issues.

And LET'S KEEP IT FRIENDLY!!!
 
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I AGREE, i started this and there is no question to that. i cant belive im the only one who became a little more aggrivated each time i was reading along a good post only to see an AD right in the middle of it. did you ever see the movie THE TRUMAN SHOW. conversating all along and all of a sudden someone throws a commercial right in the middle, then your like WTF was that. i cant belive that a moderator just locked a post below this and basically said its ok for non-supporting vendors to post in the forums. :confused: :confused:
 
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im a horn locker, and hope i dont meet someone really pissed at bradenton, lol, id hate to get punched in the head
 

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Rich,You have Covered a lot of good points.
The mature sites like Corral and Stangnet seem only to have some personality clashes from time to time that moderators handle.That is easily resolved.
We have a different situation in that we want free flowing information from Hard core guys and vendors.
We came to this forum even though it was already labeled as a vendor(AMAZONRACING).I know Rick and was under the impression he would be tolerant of other vendors.
It seems now that there is a problem either instigated by a Amazonracing supporter and or Amazonracing itself.
If this site and the Terminator forum is to be the best.I suggest we have a neutral moderator who is not a vendor.


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and to jimmy, hardcore yes, thats fine as long as its truthful info. hrh had a post yesterday that has since been deleted where he said how a guy was happy with his car because pete put a L pulley and jba headers on it. he didnt post that in a post, he made a new topic to post that. what is hardcore about that? it wasnt even the guy with the car posting it, it was harry
 
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I agree on that one Jim....I also think sig files should not turn into advertisements here too. And , if I had been moderator and I saw someone else getting blasted like I was, I would have booted their ass right then and there. I did not attack anyone and still this really pisses me off. I think there is an apolgy that should be public in this forum..given to me. I just dont get it....if Rick from Amazon and Linn are afraid to say something on behalf of their certain customer then that is wrong in my book. If that were my client and he blasted someone I know, like that.....just because the client has spent money in my business , I would tell him like it is and say either ease up and say sorry or get the hell out. I dont conduct business that way and never will. I dont care how much money they spend. I can ease up with the Nitrous Pete threads...but I am not the only one who has started threads that are about Pete......and not the only one mentioning vendors here. I can promise you this...if there is not an apolgy...I am gone..

Character Bashing is just downright wrong. Especially since I didnt say boo about the other person..and even after he said his piece, I still kept my cool.

Respect...thats whats wrong with this new breed of Americans!
 

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Matt, I see that you are nitpicking again..Why don't you try to be part of a soloution,rather then part of the problem.
Any future comments you have to direct at me,I would prefer e mails.


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Matt...that guy asked me to do that...he is alittle on the shy side and man can I see why after all this shit. He was going to join here and post it himself, but he is far from a computer guy. He asked me to post that post....I didnt ask him.....

again Matt...Oh Mr. I have know Respect whatsever...thanks for all your kind remarks about me...why dont you go and count all the ranks I have on you....so far 2.....No Respect...and MrLotsalsowrides was another....You need to grow up....or what you really need is to join the armed forces so they can straighten your ass out sir!
 
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I also think sig files should not turn into advertisements here too
not only is/was your sig and advertisement, but every other post you make is one. petes sig is a bilboard too, so what are you saying?

nitpick nothing, my fingers would fall off if i typed out all that has been deleted in the last 2 days.
 
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So everything I just said and all you point out is the sig files....I had one mention in this forum in my sig ...thanks to Nitrous Pete and his web address...that was it here.

You have no comment on anything else I said in that post..nothing...you just read through it and see one thing.

Wow...the future of America sure is in trouble....I would have never talked to someone much older than me that way when I was 22 years old. Its just wrong Matt Lankford...wrong.
 
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im not 22, and i read your whole post and i feel the same way about it as you do about mine, its crap, you jump in every thread pitching pj perf, is that correct, will you acknowledge that?
 
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how does my age have anything to do with anything here? what your doing is crap and we both know it. id realize that if i was 15 or 55 and call you out in the same fashion
 

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Get up, back away from the keyboard.

You two need to take a break from arguing for a while.
 
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Ok...here goes Matt..lets see how much a man you really are buddy.

I apologize in posting too many Nitrous Pete threads and will ease up big time on that issue.I admit I am guilty on that.

Lets see now if you can save face....but from what I have seen of you....you wont be able too. So go ahead...surprise me.
 
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I am sorry Bill and others..I tried so hard not saying boo....but after all the bashing of me...I just couldnt take it anymore and couldnt keep it just to emails from me to Matt. It was posted to the forum of ripping me...so I had to tastefully get this off my chest...it wont happen again, I promise you everyone.

Just send the psycho treatment bill to me :D

Sorry Eric.

and sorry to rub you the wrong way Matt ......didnt mean it.
 
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