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Im a member on another forum that has nothing to do with mustangs. It mostly just a web forum to post random things. Well someone made a thread "Someone needs to forcefully introduce condoms to Mexican men"

His opening statement was "Seriously, being a Catholic and all, stop ****ing having 6 kids when you cannot afford 3. Living in Phoenix I see caravans of these huge families. You wouldn't need all 6 to work to feed a family of 8 when 2 parents could work to feed a family of 5 with maybe help.

*Raise glass*

Heres to paying taxes and social security for a generation that won't look like us. See you in 2042 when you'll be speaking Spanish at Walgreens to get your Viagra."

So I replied with alittle rant and was instantly crucified for my opinion that obviously no one else on there shares.

http://xmike.com/forum/posts.php?t=10455130&m=1235064864&pg=01

Any thoughts or opinions on this. I know I could have been more tactful on my approach but on that site tact is not used.
 

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I find this funny. I think all ethnicities have their problems. My personal opinion is that if they want to get their "papers" other than the current way, the should have to pass a test in Enliglish and have no criminal record. But thats just me, they are hard working people that do jobs MANY people wont do, and for a fraction of a cost. They dont steal from the American people, they work for less on jobs the average american will never do. If they happen to land a good job let's say a Dr. Good for them they earned it, they must of gone to school and followed all the rules applied to become a succesful/ legal Dr.
 

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Another funny thing is i am Mexican but born in Southern California, I also have 4 sisters and 1 brother, just like the thread says. One thing that kind of got me going is what people dont see we work maybe for less, but we pay taxes just like everyone else, why should we be excluded to work in this great country. America was found by people who wanted change and so did my family. Unless your a Native American, your a foreigner too.
 

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well, I don't have nothing against them, but I'm of the opinion that if you want to come to America and as with anything in life, there's a wrong way to do it, and right way to do it.

sneaking across the border, and risking your life, and breaking the law are not the right way to do it.

we don't live in the 1800's anymore, and in this day and age when our enemies are searching for weaknesses to exploit, and we can't just leave our borders open.

If we continue to leave our borders open (both Canadian and Mexican), eventually one of our enemies (Bin Laden or Iran) is going to use that weakness against us to smuggle a nuke across the border and into one of our cities and we won't know a thing about it until it's entirely too late.

The arrogance and stupidity of our politicians to see this threat and to take appropriate actions to prevent such a threat never ceases to amaze me.

I don't live in Mexico, and have never visited there, but for the life of me I can't see why they don't just band together and take their country back and make it proud and prosperous?

there's more Mexican citizens than there are government and corrupt politicians down there, so why not take it back from them?
 

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I completly agree w/ you 100%. With that border thing. Mexico is really F***ed up. I wont even go over there right now. I heard it is on the break of Civil War, the main reason i think so is that they let it get to out of hand, reason the Narco's (Drug Lords) pay way more than the government can. I hope they can resolve it for i can visit there one day (never been there). But they need to get their shit together.
 

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I'll say the same thing here that I say anywhere that I'm asked this question:

My great grandfather came to this country through Ellis Island. I'll never be able to understand why people get angry with a person who wants the same thing for THEIR family.

I think, and take this for what it's worth, that if the US Government would make it easier to become a citizen we'd never have to worry about any of this crap again.

Instead of wasting billions of taxpayer dollars to erect walls, build office buildings near the borders.

If you make everyone come in through centralized locations, then fingerprint and photograph each and every one of them (hell, they're not citizens yet, so take a DNA sample while you're at it), not only would you have a significant increase in people who are paying taxes legally (the economy can use the cash infusion), people who will have to work on the books (which will earn them higher wages), but you'd suddenly have a catalog of a MUCH greater percentage of those coming across the border.

So, there are a great number if benefits to doing it that way.

Right now, it's so expensive to become a citizen it's not even funny.

Can you imagine if they made it like 99 bucks to do the paperwork and they said "you can move to one of the following areas for the first 5 years: Wyoming, Iowa, South Dakota, Tennessee, Kentucky."

You'd improve the economy of that part of the country almost immediately. :)
 

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I'll say the same thing here that I say anywhere that I'm asked this question:

My great grandfather came to this country through Ellis Island. I'll never be able to understand why people get angry with a person who wants the same thing for THEIR family.

I think, and take this for what it's worth, that if the US Government would make it easier to become a citizen we'd never have to worry about any of this crap again.

Instead of wasting billions of taxpayer dollars to erect walls, build office buildings near the borders.

If you make everyone come in through centralized locations, then fingerprint and photograph each and every one of them (hell, they're not citizens yet, so take a DNA sample while you're at it), not only would you have a significant increase in people who are paying taxes legally (the economy can use the cash infusion), people who will have to work on the books (which will earn them higher wages), but you'd suddenly have a catalog of a MUCH greater percentage of those coming across the border.

So, there are a great number if benefits to doing it that way.

Right now, it's so expensive to become a citizen it's not even funny.

Can you imagine if they made it like 99 bucks to do the paperwork and they said "you can move to one of the following areas for the first 5 years: Wyoming, Iowa, South Dakota, Tennessee, Kentucky."

You'd improve the economy of that part of the country almost immediately. :)
While I respect your opinion, I have to disagree with your point of view. Things aren't the same today as they were when your great grandfather came to America via Ellis Island.

I don't think people get angry that they want to come here to have a better life, I think what people get angry about is how they go about doing it. They lie, they sneak around, they evade the border patrol, and then they come in, and work, but at the same time, that money that they earn, they send it all to Mexico to subsidize their families way of life there...how is that fair to our economy? It's a hinderance. Is it responsible for the way our economy is right now? Not likely, but I'm sure it doesn't help.

With the threats that we face today as a nation, allowing the borders to just remain totally open would be extremeley dangerous.

Just think, drug cartels could operate more freely, smuggling drugs across the border would increase, not to mention nuclear weapons could be smuggled across the border and into our cities. Our children would be subjected to more drugs, and crime.

And if you look at how many immigrants live when they come here, they pack themselves into apartments, and group together into neighborhoods, and they tear up things wherever they go. I've seen it in Kansas City when I lived there, and I've seen it in Nashville as well. They move from one area tear it up and destroy the property, the grass is killed off, they have trash littered all over the place, the buildings they inhabit are run down and torn up and they don't have the simple respect for things like you or I do. Then when it's all torn up and the value of the property is way down, they move somewhere else to repeat the cycle. All they know is use, use, use and discard. They don't respect other people, they don't respect the laws, and what's even worse is they help to drive up the cost of our healthcare when they go to the doctor or the hospital, and then they don't pay the bill, so it gets sent to a collection agency, and they can't find the person, so it gets charged off, and the hospital or clinic has to raise their prices on medical services to counter the loss, making things higher for you and me.

Now that's not much different from the white trailer trash we have living in this country today, and it's not different from the black trash that we have infesting the ghetto's and inner cities, and it's not different than the trash of all other races that choose to live like this either, but my point is, just because we have trash living within our borders legally, doesn't mean we should justify allowing more trash to keep coming in.

There are exceptions to every rule, and I've seen immigrant families that have nice things and nice houses, and they take care of their stuff, but they represent a small percentage of the total number.

If we open those borders we also are facing the prospect of over populating. We're at 300,000,000+ in this country and growing rapidly. At some point, we're going to run out of land to put all these people.

At some point you have to say enough is enough, and you have to shut it down.

New Zealand has a policy where anyone can come to their country, but they have to have offer a certain skill set, prove they have the education and the skillset, and be approved by the New Zealand Foreign Ministry.

I think it would be in America's best interest to adopt a similar program.

Also, if you were to subject incoming immigrants to dna sampling and fingerprinting and photographing, you'd have every Human Rights Advocay Group whining and bellering about privacy rights violations and filing lawsuits left and right, so that would never work.

just an article to support a little bit of what I've been saying.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1047570.html
 
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