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I grew up a Republican, and I believe in what they are suppose to stand for, but this administration has done nothing for their party, but drive us to war, and give us little information about what they have planned.

I wish we had another Reagan running for 2008, but sadly we have another group that will probably be as bad or worse than Bush.
Agree 100%

Ron Paul 2008!!!
 
I think its funny that you don't realize that is exactly what it is. GGBIW
I wouldn't expect anything else.....

I'm not a liberal, nor a democrate, or even a republican. Politics are for crooks.

I'm just trying to go through life with minimal resistance.

I know he prays and seeks guidance from our ceator. I didn't care for our last presidents morals. He did give tax cuts which has a lot to do with the stock market recovery after 9-11.I don't think any of us like the war. Can you quote when he lied to the american people? I don't think he ever KNOWINGLY decieved the american people. Just how I feel. GGBIW
Just like the Priests who are busy plugging little kids right? I'm sure they pray too. This world if full of hipocrats. You keep thinking Bush has "the people" in his thoughts and actions. There's to many say'ers and not enough do'ers in this world. I guess that makes more of an idealist than anything.
 
I used to not understand why so many people in this country bought into telemarketing schemes and pyramid schemes. I used to wonder at the popularity of the WWF (before they changed the name). I was curious about the mentality that thinks it is cheeper to buy a 6 pack at $6 than it is to spend $1 a can.

But I figured it out not to long ago.

Most Americans are MORONS.

Think of it this way:
The average American is pretty moronic. By definition, that means that half of the populace is even more moronic than he is.

We are a consumer culture. We consume goods, ideas entertainment, etc. The more extreme the good, idea, entertainment, etc, the more we consume. So, the Whopper is popular, but the Triple Whopper? Fake wrestling... 7 channels of home shopping (can't be convinced to get off of our collective fatasses to buy worthless crap)... crackpot ubsubstantiated conspiracy theories... all are more popular now than ever. And we believe that it is all real. Survivor, Big Brother, Hell's Kitchen, Top Chef, Real World, Road Rules... "reality TV"... but it isn't really reality... didn't you know that?

C'mon everyone, PLEASE take about 4 steps back from the edge and THINK.

For those that have already jumped off, start flapping or something... it can't hurt...
This girl is pretty smart :wink: :stars:

YouTube - Miss Teen USA South Carolina 2007 with Subtitles
 
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Wiretaps against citizens of the US. These were against known terrorists from other countries. Symantics many, but still there. I personally have no problem with the govt listening into phone calls against known terrorist groups on international calls.

Again, it is funny. Liberals decry this and if you think about it, they are the very ones who give the terrorist the ability to do the things they do. If you do not have anything to hide, don't worry about it. I would rather sacrifice some to be safe, than to allow terrorist the ability to cause more mass murder. Liberals would sacrifice people in order to make sure your feelings are not hurt.
If you sacrifice Liberty for Security, you deserve neither.. We are a Country of men, governed by laws..

By all means, wiretap the terrorist.. But first prove they are a terrorist by appearing in Court, and making a paper trail under the Umbrella of Justice, to make sure Constitutional abuses can not take place.. Plus, inform the court of the name of the person your trying to tap.. Show probable cause for this action..

This is not a political issue, so you should not continue to used the catch phrase Liberal to gain support for your radical ideas, which seem to contradict the Rule of Law, and the Constitution Hylander...

Even a Liberal wants to have a proven terrorist conspirator wiretapped.. A true Conservative wants you to prove it first..
 
I say we all surround him in tghe White House with our Mustangs and smoke him out! This is the most corrupt administration in History. We can't rebuild New Orleans but we have 500 Billion to waste on Iraq. We let our Interstate Highways collapse. And Bush can't be lying to us cuz he "prays to the Creator". Um...yeah...ok! That's about as nuts as those "terrorists"
What do you call the Clinton scandal? The man lied and then admitted that he lied as if there wasn't anything wrong with it............:sly:
 
What do you call the Clinton scandal? The man lied and then admitted that he lied as if there wasn't anything wrong with it............:sly:
Just a slight difference between lying about getting head versus why we went to war. Everyone knows politicians lie about everything. Poli=many tic=blood sucking insect
 
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Here is something for you to consider for the rest of the day Hylander, based on your view of things...

1. First they came for ShawnsSVTCobra, and I thought nothing...

2.Then they came for JKDCobra, and I said nothing..

3.Somehow they managed to come for Eric Brooks, and I did nothing..

4.Now they have come for me, and there is nobody else to save me..

Thats how this shit works Hylander.. If we don't make them prove, with factual evidence who is labeled a terrorist and for what reason, by a peer review in a United States Court of Law, then we can not stop them from coming to get you!
 
gawd, you are seriously dilusional... you need actual psychiatric help, no shit.


Either that, or you are pulling everyone's leg and your next move is to put together a group buy...
 
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gawd, you are seriously dilusional... you need actual psychiatric help, no shit.

Either that, or you are pulling everyone's leg and your next move is to put together a group buy...
Not gonna work Herknav! My point of view outnumbers your 50-1 at this website.. People are not as foolish as you think.. Most refrain from comment based on this type of personal attack, which is really quite beneath someone with such accomplishments as you..

Sit back and take a breath of fresh air.. This conversation is geared toward mature adults who know its in their best interest to stay open minded about the complexities of the world today.. Go read your Holy Bible and discover what it means to be a good Christian, if thats your faith.. I am a Christian, and am damn proud of it.. The Lord has blessed my life in many different ways.. Lockheed Martin Missile and Space Company has picked up where the good Lord has allowed me to fall short..

The internet is full of people you know nothing about Herknav.. Speak with respect and dignity to those from which you know nothing about.. They will do the same for you..

Your dismissed Soldier!:salut:
 
Little by little more and more of our rights are dwindling away. They keep taking and "we" keep giving. Let me guess this is all for the better good right?

Before you know it we'll be a cashless society with RFID tags embedded in us or in our drivers license. I know it sounds extreme but all it's going to take is time and passive people with the "I don't have nothing to hide" attitude. Perfect puppets for the system. They say jump and you say how high. Who's going to be the first person in line for the mandatory DNA sample and finger print ID?

Point of this is you don't have to be a liberal/democrat/republican to care about your rights, or what's left of them, you just have to be an American that cares about his/her rights and the rights of future generations.......


Who's really running this country any?
 
Anyone see the history channel own the 9/11 conspiracy theorists? Great show.

It is ashame however, that our country seems to be dividing into two camps. The nanny state morons who are gladly giving up privacy and all their rights willingly, in some cases like Onstar, actually paying to have there every move monitored. There on one side.

the people on the privacy side of things seem to be going completly overboard in the other direction.

To me, the truth is in the middle, and the hard part is how do we get the wack jobs from the extremes back to a position that really makes sense.

For the record, I think anyone who is still behind this administration is a complete flaming idiot.

They started a war that didn't need to be fought, in such an incompetent manner that it appears it can not be won. Unlike Viet Nam, however, losing this war will have grave grave consequences.
 
I personally have no problem with the govt listening into phone calls against known terrorist groups on international calls.
That's not the extent of it. He is wire tapping whoever he wants without oversight. It is against the law. I don't care if you want to sit there and give up your rights like the idiot Germans did for Hitler. It is not alright with me to give up mine. Wake up before it's too late. We no longer live in a free democracy here. We are continually losing our position as one of the best countries in the world in any category you can think of. Dollars rule and any means to go after them are alright. Your children are going to live to see the US implode just as the Soviet Union did. It's coming and you all need to open your eyes.
 
I wouldn't expect anything else.....

I'm not a liberal, nor a democrate, or even a republican. Politics are for crooks.

I'm just trying to go through life with minimal resistance.

Just like the Priests who are busy plugging little kids right? I'm sure they pray too. This world if full of hipocrats. You keep thinking Bush has "the people" in his thoughts and actions. There's to many say'ers and not enough do'ers in this world. I guess that makes more of an idealist than anything.
Your statement reveals you are a liberal. To say that a few evil priests makes anyone that prays a child molester is ignorant. You can serve god or the devil,there is no in between. If those evil priest do pray they pray to satan not our creator. Our president is protecting this country with every fiber in his body. To equate him with evil is very short sighted. Liberals resort to name calling and stereotyping when they can't argue the facts. Why do you start by saying your not liberal? minimum resistance? I am a proud christian republican. I pray every day so buy your thinking I'm evil too. Especially because I like president Bush. There is a post on the shannon murders where some demonic black people did horrendous things to them before killing them. Do I hate all black people because of the action of others? Contrary,I took a black man,his wife and daughter to the top of the GGB because a bunch of fifth graders raised money for him to see the GGB as it was his lifelong dream.Should I hate him when the fifth graders loved him enough to sell cookies to raise money for him? Do I put him in the same category as the evil demonic criminals? Are all preists evil? President Bush is an Honorable man and never KNOWINGLY lied to the american people. GGBIW:bye:
 
Anyone see the history channel own the 9/11 conspiracy theorists? Great show.

It is ashame however, that our country seems to be dividing into two camps. The nanny state morons who are gladly giving up privacy and all their rights willingly, in some cases like Onstar, actually paying to have there every move monitored. There on one side.

the people on the privacy side of things seem to be going completly overboard in the other direction.

To me, the truth is in the middle, and the hard part is how do we get the wack jobs from the extremes back to a position that really makes sense.

For the record, I think anyone who is still behind this administration is a complete flaming idiot.

They started a war that didn't need to be fought, in such an incompetent manner that it appears it can not be won. Unlike Viet Nam, however, losing this war will have grave grave consequences.
I don't buy many conspiracy theories, but if you take a moment to look into the ones associated with 911, there are alot of unanswered questions... especially the rate in which those buildings fell - free fall speed.

JT, I agree with your post 110%
 
Wow I could only stand to watch the first section on religion, it is clear how a few people spend there whole lives and passion on trying to destroy Christianity and God. This religion section of the movie offers no "truth" about religion wanting to imply there is no God, but yet one of the first speakers talks about I don't know what God is but I know what he is not implying there is a God he just does not know of him. Men like this are well educated in the Bible but there reasoning for not excepting it is simple they do not want to be held responsible for there thoughts and actions here on earth, knowing full good and well there is a heaven and a hell but not choosing to except it. Well guess what just because they choose not to except the truth is there problem but that does not make Christianity not true.

All Scripture(From the Holy Bible) is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work. 2nd Timothy 3:16

This country was built on Christianity and that is the only reason it has lasted this long, because God has blessed us greatly because we have put our hope and faith in him. We are one of the very few countries that will remove a terrorist and wicked dictatorship and then turn around and pump billions of dollars into a country to rebuild it. Why do our men and women die every day in war? To protect and preserve are freedoms as Americans. There will be an end to this world and no one knows the date or the hour except God. Why does people ask for prayer for there loved ones when they are going through hard times and may not necessarily consider themselves "religious" because they know that God does comfort and heal and they know there is a God much bigger then themselves. A daily personal relationship with Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven I pray you seek him!
Although you gave a very impassioned speech of how strong your faith is, you lost me when you mentioned terrorist and justified the destruction of a highly educated and partly Christian Country.. One of the only Countries in the middle east which had huge sections of Christian Arabs.. Saddam himself was a Christian and believed in the same Jesus Christ you Speak of.. Not Islamic..

Here he admits the truth..

YouTube - Bush admits that Iraq Had Nothing To Do With 9/11

So when you mention terrorist, what does that have to do with spending billions of American dollars rebuilding a Country?

Seek the light my friend.. Your not posting on a site where the masses are uninformed.. There are alot of people at this site that know the truth.. We wont allow you to snowjob this community with this blasphemy..
Then you MSP tell herknav this ".. Go read your Holy Bible and discover what it means to be a good Christian, if thats your faith.. I am a Christian, and am damn proud of it.. The Lord has blessed my life in many different ways..

So what is going on here MSP it seems as if you are speaking out of both sides of your mouth because just about a week ago you told me that I was trying to snowball this community with blasphemy when I criticized a movie that was truly blasphemous toward God. Maybe you don't understand the word blasphemy but it is anything done or said to disrespect God. So what is going on here MSP? Well maybe now that you profess to being a Christian I can actually relate with you on few points.
Read Romans 13:1-7 I will touch on the point where the Holy Bible says "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment upon themselves.
 
Not gonna work Herknav! My point of view outnumbers your 50-1 at this website..
Your dismissed Soldier!:salut:
Youre fuggin nuts. Unless and until you make a poll on here so we can vote, this is just crap on your behalf. Youre like that jerkoff "Wart" on Stangnet. There are PLENTY of political websites to chat on. You can also go to DiscussAnything.com. It may have changed its name to DA.com. But othewrwise, to me, just die already.
 
Youre fuggin nuts. Unless and until you make a poll on here so we can vote, this is just crap on your behalf. Youre like that jerkoff "Wart" on Stangnet. There are PLENTY of political websites to chat on. You can also go to DiscussAnything.com. It may have changed its name to DA.com. But othewrwise, to me, just die already.
MSP, make a poll :good: Any yes FalconGTO, there are plenty of political websites to post on but, why can't MSP post here? This is The Bar. "Don't want to talk modular? Postit here" That is what it said when you clicked on The Bar, no? Every other area of the board you can talk about cars and this area allows anyone to talk about anything else. It was your choice to click on this thread and read it. If you dont like what MSP has to say then dont read it. Simple. :eek:k:
 
To say that a few evil priests makes anyone that prays a child molester is ignorant. GGBIW
Where did I say people that pray MUST be a child molester. You can try to twist my words but it's not going to happen. I guess he who prays doesn't sin right? Is that what your saying?

Our president is protecting this country with every fiber in his body. To equate him with evil is very short sighted.
You keep believing that! I'm glad not everyone is as gullible as your are.

I am a proud christian republican. I pray every day so buy your thinking I'm evil too.
For a guy that seems well off you don't seem very bright. Reread what I said. What I'm saying is that just because someone "prays" that doesn't make him the Pope or all holy. Everyone sins and that's the facts. I guess you're too high and mighty to sin right?

There is a post on the shannon murders where some demonic black people did horrendous things to them before killing them. Do I hate all black people because of the action of others? Contrary,I took a black man,his wife and daughter to the top of the GGB because a bunch of fifth graders raised money for him to see the GGB as it was his lifelong dream.Should I hate him when the fifth graders loved him enough to sell cookies to raise money for him?
Congratulations, what do you want a cookie? If that's the highlight of your "generosity" give it up buddy. What was the guy a republican or something? Do you even have any black friends? I think probably not.

Bush is an Honorable man and never KNOWINGLY lied to the american people. GGBIW
What are you a cheerleader for the Bush administration? :cheers:I know plenty of people who were all for Bush in the beginning. Those same people don't quite hold him in the same light anymore. My fiancée's family are republicans, does that bother me....NO. Does it bother them that I'm not political....NO. I could care less what they are, they're family. Some republicans have a clue and some don't.

I guess it's true what they say, ignorance is bliss! Have a nice life.
 
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