That;s very interesting. I'm not interested in a serious quote, but what are the ballpark figures for a good color change paint job. It's been a few years since I've heard, and prices have gone way up since. I'm guessing $6000 - $8000?

 

That;s very interesting. I'm not interested in a serious quote, but what are the ballpark figures for a good color change paint job. It's been a few years since I've heard, and prices have gone way up since. I'm guessing $6000 - $8000?

List price is around 1200 - 1500 a gallon.

 

Someone can google for all the details (or hit one of the 96 Mystic registry sites) but the material used for the color shift on the 96 was the same as that used on the "security ink" that appears on the new US currency. Ford was very strict on it's control, and I had heard tales of actual "inspections" of damage to insure that only the required amount was released for repair, and even stories of "inspectors" showing up at body shops to do clean-up and recover any unused materials. Seems a bit extreme, but I knew the guys telling the tales and have no reasons to doubt it.
My 96 is now owned by a Sherriff in FL - been trying to buy it back for a couple years. For a brief time it had a baby seat in it <shudder>. Why (96) Mystics are not appreciating more in value is beyond me - there will never be another and there won't be any copies.....

Don

 

Someone can google for all the details (or hit one of the 96 Mystic registry sites) but the material used for the color shift on the 96 was the same as that used on the "security ink" that appears on the new US currency. Ford was very strict on it's control, and I had heard tales of actual "inspections" of damage to insure that only the required amount was released for repair, and even stories of "inspectors" showing up at body shops to do clean-up and recover any unused materials. Seems a bit extreme, but I knew the guys telling the tales and have no reasons to doubt it.
My 96 is now owned by a Sherriff in FL - been trying to buy it back for a couple years. For a brief time it had a baby seat in it <shudder>. Why (96) Mystics are not appreciating more in value is beyond me - there will never be another and there won't be any copies.....

Don

Those stories are true. One of my best friends' dad owned the biggest body shop in the Southeast until he recently sold it. He said that some sort of official (not sure if it was government or what) watched them paint the car and took the remains. That is pretty hardcore control on paint. But then again I new a guy that had 1/2 a gallon left over after he completely repainted his mystic and I had him paint pieces of my interior with it. So its hit and miss I guess with the control.

Ashley

 

When we had one in the body shop, not only did Ford monitor the amount of paint we received, they came and picked up what was left after the repair.

 

List price is around 1200 - 1500 a gallon.

Thats a pretty good price for Mystichrome paint. I have a close friend who has a body shop and is a Dupont certified dealer/repairer. he has his own mixing computer along with the big paint matching system. I asked him to get me a price on some of the 2004 paint and he said it was easy to get the paint. he carried it all in stock except the special additive was almost $400.00 per PINT!
It takes and 55 - 60% of the special additive pint along with the other paint colors to make one pint of paint. Ford will only mix and sell it if you buy 25 gallons at $1200.00 per gallon. Dupont regional factory will mix us a pint for $1175.00. I just wanted to get some to do some customization on my car, (door handles, radio bezel, switch bezel and guage surround.) The local NAPA dealer carries the BSAF brand and can mix the colors for me but no special additive. I might be interested in some if the price is right.

 

i know it's not the same but anyone try using that three part stuff from auto stores?

 

I had mine mixed at the local CarQuest using the DuPont code. It's a dead-on match. $235.00/pint. There were 5 components. While one of them was spendy, I don't recall the % being that high - but I didn't really ask/care, all I wanted was a match. It reduced my cost significantly buying 2 pints as this used up all of the ChromaLusion additive that gives the shift.
There are documented steps for base and top coating, but I don't have them. I think it's just a black base, 1 wet layer of paint, and a clear topcoat.
Jay Tucker (of JLT) has applied it with great success (see my thread on my CAI for pics), you may want to ask his opinion on laying it down....

Don

 

Why (96) Mystics are not appreciating more in value is beyond me - there will never be another and there won't be any copies.....

Don

Time will increase their appreciation... :thumb2:

 

It was a goverment guy, that brought the paint to a buddy's shop, sat there and watching them pait the Cobra and then he cleaned the gun and everything and tok what was left and drove off, the guy didnt even talk that much, it was crazy.



Keyser

 

I had the painting instructions. best i can remember without looking them up was.

Light grey base coat

1 coat of Mystichrome paint.
Wait 15 minutes
2nd coat of Mystichrome paint.
Wait 15 minutes
3rd coat of Mystichrome paint.
After waiting 15 minutes you can add a 4th coat it is up to the owner and painter. If not.
Clear coat the car within 24 hours. The sooner the better.

This was what was told to me by someone mixing the paint.

 

Someone can google for all the details (or hit one of the 96 Mystic registry sites) but the material used for the color shift on the 96 was the same as that used on the "security ink" that appears on the new US currency. Ford was very strict on it's control, and I had heard tales of actual "inspections" of damage to insure that only the required amount was released for repair, and even stories of "inspectors" showing up at body shops to do clean-up and recover any unused materials. Seems a bit extreme, but I knew the guys telling the tales and have no reasons to doubt it.
My 96 is now owned by a Sherriff in FL - been trying to buy it back for a couple years. For a brief time it had a baby seat in it <shudder>. Why (96) Mystics are not appreciating more in value is beyond me - there will never be another and there won't be any copies.....

Don

when I used to work in a body shop a few years back, I was sent a BASF rep to watch over the painter. He was in the paint booth with the painter, cleaned his gun for him, even took the masking materials used!

 

Those stories are true. One of my best friends' dad owned the biggest body shop in the Southeast until he recently sold it. He said that some sort of official (not sure if it was government or what) watched them paint the car and took the remains. That is pretty hardcore control on paint. But then again I new a guy that had 1/2 a gallon left over after he completely repainted his mystic and I had him paint pieces of my interior with it. So its hit and miss I guess with the control.

Ashley

I heard those stories also, there tight on paint control.:blink:

 

That would suck to rear end a mystic cobra. I would feel so bad.

 

how much of that does it take to paint a complete mustang? door jams under hood etc? Im looking to change the color of my car one day and i thought about the BASF paint like the mystichrome but the original mystichrome would be nice to have

 

According to SVTOA and Ford themselves the "MystiChrome" type paint you get from paint stores is not an exact match, I have a friend with a 88 GT who has 96 Mystic Paint and it's not that hard to get or match at all. I have a chip on my front part of my hood along with a slight scratch on my front bumper. I was informed by Ford that if i wanted it redone it would be at least a month process as they would have to wait for confirmation of dedicated Ford employee to come down and confirm the damage. Then and ONLY then would they be able to have the car painted. As they said Ford will not let just any person paint it, they would send the car out to one of their "dedicated" paint guys and have it done.

It's not 96 Mystic that's hard to get it's G6, you can get something close but it's color changes are much different then actual. I will find the exact Ford article summing this up. A buddy of mine found the article one day on "Ford Asset" and i read it. Pretty interesting. MystiChrome is laid down like any other paint color but has "crystilline" or something like that in the paint that presents a "prism like" effect.

 

According to SVTOA and Ford themselves the "MystiChrome" type paint you get from paint stores is not an exact match, I have a friend with a 88 GT who has 96 Mystic Paint and it's not that hard to get or match at all. I have a chip on my front part of my hood along with a slight scratch on my front bumper. I was informed by Ford that if i wanted it redone it would be at least a month process as they would have to wait for confirmation of dedicated Ford employee to come down and confirm the damage. Then and ONLY then would they be able to have the car painted. As they said Ford will not let just any person paint it, they would send the car out to one of their "dedicated" paint guys and have it done.

It's not 96 Mystic that's hard to get it's G6, you can get something close but it's color changes are much different then actual. I will find the exact Ford article summing this up. A buddy of mine found the article one day on "Ford Asset" and i read it. Pretty interesting. MystiChrome is laid down like any other paint color but has "crystilline" or something like that in the paint that presents a "prism like" effect.

I retract my previous post, slightly anyway, both 96 Mystic and 04 MystiChrome can not be duplicated, My buddy that bought my MystiChrome is replacing the driver door as well as touching up other areas so of course he needs paint (my wife backed into the car after he bought it right in our driveway somehow..WOMEN:stars A person from BASF (company who designed the paint) had to come out to look and determine how much was needed, as well as supervising the painting.

 

I had a buddy with a 04 mystic. He bought it from hawaii, during shipment, brake fluid was leaked all over the C pillar and rear quarter panel. Well he ended up getting a polished whipple and few other mods with the money he got from the shipment company.

 

Just had the issue brought up concerning the Mystic Chrome paint available on limited 96 and 04 Mustang Cobras. Here is the story.

The two paints are actually two completly different formulas. The 1996 formula is paint code LF. The PPG paint code is 5104. PPG, Dupont, House of Kolors, etc. can NOT get this paint formula. This paint is available only through a Ford Dealership. Even then, you will have to provide proof of ownership of a 1996 Mystic Cobra and proof of damage. Then they will provide you with just enough paint to repair the damaged area.

The 2004 Mystic Cobra paint on the other hand, is still available. The paint code for this is G6, or PPG Paint Code 903070. This can be mixed by almost any body shop who mixes their own paint. Thiel's Collision Center, Inc. is one of these shops. If you are interested in this paint, send me a PM and I will provide the price for ModularFord members.

Please, serious inquiries only.

If you're still around, I'm interested in some Mystichrome paint to cover my HO Fibertrends hood and a new bumper cover. I tried to send a PM, but your box is full.

 

why in heck are the makers of the Mystichrome and Mystic paints so up in arms about how much paint is released to whom, and supervising it and all that stuff???? It's just paint. good grief. not like it's diamonds, or gold or silver or nuclear weapons plans or anything.

 

Maybe it is...an earlier poster said it was ink similar to the security ink used in currency. Maybe the reason they go through all this is because this stuff is what you need to counterfiet new $100's.

 

ive heard the same thing about berylium orange saleens. that they refuse to release the paint info. i guess its kind of like sonic blue cars. seems like every old fox body is painted sonic blue. they want to keep these colors extremely limited so they dont get "played out"

 

which that reminds me...I went to a Ford Dealership back in Missouri when I lived there to get some sidescoops painted, and they were gonna charge me like $281 to strip, prep, primer, and paint 2 little old 16 x 7" sidescoops.

but the odd thing was they tried telling me that my Sonic Blue paint on my car (Paint Code: SN) is a tri-coat with a pearl base in it.

So $280 was a little bit expensive for me for some lousy sidescoops, so I called a few other places around town, and got $150 and $125 quotes which was reasonable, but every painter at those other shops said Ford was bullshitting me on the paint, that it wasn't a tri-coat, and didn't have a pearl base, but said they were using that excuse that it was to overcharge for Sonic Blue Clearcoat Metallic paint.

WTF!!!!?!?!?!?!

Anyhow, a buddy on my bowling league at the time, was a guy who went around to dealerships touching up cars, and repainting sections, and he told me the same thing the other paint guys had told me, and said he could mix the paint himself, match it perfectly to my car, all for $50.

so I took him up on the offer, and they matched perfectly!!! I was astonished. he said it was so easy to mix that up, and it cost him about $10 for a half pint, which was more than he needed to spray the sidescoops.

I was pretty pisssed at ford, for trying to charge me almost $300 to get some sidescoops painted. ripoffs.

as for the beryllium orange, can't you just take a photo of a mustang with that color, and have a paint shop use a spectrum camera to match it up to get a proper mix and then write down the formula?

 

I agree with Up1990Notches, in that these companies probably just want to limit the number of these color cars. If the Only way to get a Mystic/Mystichrome car is to purchase a genuine Cobra, then the value will go up. Now......on a side note, for those Mystichrome owners looking for "Mystic" accents, we offer a Mystichrome-type powder that would look great under the hood of these Mystic cars.
-Kyle

 

Does anyone know the BASF/RM paint code for the 2004 version?

 

this guy on corral says he can get it, its just expensive. http://www.stangcrazy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3367

 

so I take it that there are alot of guys that are having issues with the side scoops right behind the doors chipping. is there anyway to protect against this at all. Mine are pretty bad and I don't want them to get any worse.-