[THX 138]

the apeal of the 2003 wheels to me was always the machined face. Without that they're like most other wheels.

 

[BadMoFo]

not digging it. but will wait to see how they look with tires mounted on them. maybe a different manufacture will pick up on this and go with the origional pic. but at least someone made them.

I second the deap dish anv but DO NOT change the spoke design!

 

[userob2002]

Exactly....makes me glad I didn't wait for these to be produced.
I was hoping for a wheel that looked identical to an 03-04 wheel but with the DD lips.
The spokes on these look almost Cobra R in profile....

I was expecting a wheel that was identical to an 03-04 Cobra wheel with the DD lip added.
The spokes on these are not right.

Someone dropped the ball on the development of these wheels. Instead of all the "we want to keep it a secret stuff" (after all no one would have stolen anyones idea...we had a struggle finding someone interested in making these wheels anyway).

There should have been some consultation with the people on these boards who expressed interest and kept these threads alive with enthusiasm,as to the final design. Even if they contacted us on a private basis and sought some feedback during the development process,there would be a different result now.

Yes the 2 wheels pictured are one front and one rear (the fact that the rear wheel is photoshopped is not relevant either) it is obvious that the new wheel is not correct in the spokes.

I for one am disappointed in the results of all this.

Well said.The black with chrome lip looks just like a Cobra R wheel

im glad i still got my 10.5 in storage.

 

[mmustangsrus]

Yeah, they look like ZR1 wheels. Maybe they'll look bettter in 18's if the spokes are longer. I do not see anything wrong with the original 10.5 03 wheels. Should have put all this effort into making the 10th Anniversary wheels deep dish.

x2 thats what i really want for my car since it is a 10th anniv vert

 

[canecobra]

Maybe it's just me, but I do not think these are very true to the style of the 03-04 Cobra stock wheel. Maybe I'm wrong but the spokes don't look quite right.....pictures of both to compare may help....here they are ....
Original 03-04 wheel first..
Then the DD...

I was thinking the same thing. blades are different and center are larger. I'm sure there is a copyright thing or something keeping them from making the exact replicas.

 

[svt1.8t]

one word UGLY

 

[I8URZ28]

They would look good on a chevy LOL I thought they were ZR-1 wheels at first.

they don't really look like a cobra wheel IMHO.

 

[427windsorman]

I spoke to Jeff by phone, and here is the scoop:

The manufacturing line tapered the spoke to much, and Jeff is having a revision ordered to fix that. The revision should correct the spokes to be as close to the original as possible with the deep dish.

It is refreshing to see a company willing to listen to the needs / wants of the consumer :beer:

This is what Jeff posted on another site:

Hi,
I would like to chime in quickly on an informational purpose.

The spoke was suppose to be more squared off according to the cad drawings. This is being worked on. This will increase the width of the spoke about 5mm, which hence it will only be about 1-2mm less in width than the original. Look over at the corral tommorow for a pic update. Believe it or not we do listen, just a small casting change which should be able to be resolved.

 

[WDW MKR]

Not a fan at all. The spoke style doesn't match and the dish looks goofy with no stepped lip.

Again, just my opinion, so rock on to those who like them. This took a lot of effort on the part of people pushing the aftermarket companies. That is to be commended.

EDIT: all comments made without reading the entire thread

 

[WDW MKR]

They would look good on a chevy LOL I thought they were ZR-1 wheels at first.

they don't really look like a cobra wheel IMHO.

Exactly what I thought. Sounds like they will be fixing that part of the design, though.

 

[RussZTT]

Why is he saying that it will be 1-2mm off from the original? Why can't it be exact?

 

[metaman]

Why is he saying that it will be 1-2mm off from the original? Why can't it be exact?

1mm is nothing you wont notice it, I would only buy these if they offer them in machine clearcoat finish with the silver paint like my factory wheels. I am not a fan of the black centers or the crome. It just wont look trick if they are not made to looks as though they are modified factory wheels.

 

[JoeMayo]

+ on the Machine face

 

[Juiced46]

same here definetely interested if they come in machined face

 

[427windsorman]

This was posted on the Corral by Jeff:

The original cad drawing is on the left, the sample is on the right. You can see the sample is about 5mm less than the cad drawing. The cad drawing is a little less than the original also in pic.

Just FYI, I am hammering the manufacturer to make sure the spoke width is correct. I measured my sample wheel at the end of the spoke prior to where it tapers and it was 35mm. My CAD drawing had it at 41mm. The OE wheel is about 43 - 2mm is not very noticable, but that extra 5mm I have informed him is unacceptable and must be fixed.

Hi,
To answer some quick questions:
Chrome Price $629 (17x9's)
Chrome Price $669 (17x9 & 17x10.5's)

The spokes are slightly thinner, but one of the primary reasons for this was weight. Our wheels are about 6-7lbs lighter per wheel. Our 17x10.5 is 5lbs less than the oe 17x9.

We thought of making them thicker but when you push the spoke back in the wheel it becomes shorter, and the thicker spoke really looks short. The angle of the spoke is actually almost identical, it is within 1 degree.

The chrome wheel in some of the pics is a 17x9.

The original cap does fit.

Here is a quick picture to compare, sorry guys I just have the black to compare in the 17x9 for quick compare. Obviously the dish one is 4 lug - but it will give you a good idea.

Sorry no polished.

To answer your question on patents, our wheel, with the dish, is ornamentally significant as the consumer would purchase it because of the dish design. This thread is proof of this.

Just as the deep dish cobra r wheel is also patented, the dish has an appearance which is ornamentally different than the original.

 

[DOHC Holliday]

I think it looks like something out of the eighties.

 

[BIGONTS]

I think it's going to be almost impossible to make the rim look right unless it's an 18". The original rims' spokes are long and reach almost to the edge of the rim. Making it a deep dish makes the spokes shorter and funny looking because you need room for the lip.

They look like cheap 15" rims that you would see on a full size Chebby truck in Mexico or a lowrider Geo Tracker from the early 90's sticking out past the fenders. This deep dish thing is going to be out of style faster then bellbottoms. Just a trend.

 

[SVT04]

This deep dish thing is going to be out of style faster then bellbottoms. Just a trend.

How old are you ? Ok I see.....:baby:
August 9, 1977 .....not really old enough to know or understand any history dealing with hot rodding and all that. The so called deep dish thing is nothing new and not a trend.

Way back in the early days of hot rodding after the war guys were modifying their cars and that often meant widening wheels as none were made commercially at the time. Wheels that were widened often had the deep offset look and of course the fronts were narrower so looked less offset.

When someone noticed what was going on and started making wheels commercially they saw what the hot rod guys were doing and what they wanted....companies like Halibrand and Crager were born.
Early custom wheels were always deep dish (different offset from front = narrower to rear = wider) to some degree.

The standard hot rod thing was a wider big tire on the rear for obvious reasons and a smaller tire on the front. The traditional big and little hot rod look. In more recent times it was taken to another level with larger size rear wheels like 18" front and 19" rear.

Now what is newer and more of a trend is the wheel with the face or spokes set flush with the outside of the wheel. I'm not sure who or when this started but possibly it was a OEM thing with front wheel drive cars ? All I know is that it looks totally out of place on a high performance vehicle.

Classic deep offset ,narrower front offset hot rod performance looks a trend ? :rofl:
I dont think so ....

 

[SVT04]

I think it looks like something out of the eighties.

Shucks another :baby: August 19, 1980

 

[WDW MKR]

How old are you ? Ok I see.....:baby:
August 9, 1977 .....not really old enough to know or understand any history dealing with hot rodding and all that. The so called deep dish thing is nothing new and not a trend.

Way back in the early days of hot rodding after the war guys were modifying their cars and that often meant widening wheels as none were made commercially at the time. Wheels that were widened often had the deep offset look and of course the fronts were narrower so looked less offset.

When someone noticed what was going on and started making wheels commercially they saw what the hot rod guys were doing and what they wanted....companies like Halibrand and Crager were born.
Early custom wheels were always deep dish (different offset from front = narrower to rear = wider) to some degree.

The standard hot rod thing was a wider big tire on the rear for obvious reasons and a smaller tire on the front. The traditional big and little hot rod look. In more recent times it was taken to another level with larger size rear wheels like 18" front and 19" rear.

Now what is newer and more of a trend is the wheel with the face or spokes set flush with the outside of the wheel. I'm not sure who or when this started but possibly it was a OEM thing with front wheel drive cars ? All I know is that it looks totally out of place on a high performance vehicle.

Classic deep offset ,narrower front offset hot rod performance looks a trend ? :rofl:
I dont think so ....

Deep dish refers to the ricer-oriented design of an extreme offset with completely flat lip. The old styles you are referring to used a step lip to achieve the offset they needed.

Wheels designs are just like paint color: you'll never get everyone to agree. I personally think the flush spoke wheels look much better on newer cars and these excessively dished wheels look "totally out of place". Doesn't necessarily make me right. This is by no mean a "classic deep offset".

And don't bother with the baby smiley. I'm well-aware that I'm 26yrs old and was born in 1980. That takes nothing from my experience with classic car design and performance, or the appreciation for proper styling associated with the proper era. The stepped offset wheels on my Grand National don't look nearly as good on the Cobra. Track duty is cool. They just don't look as good for street driving or shows IMHO. Deep dish like that shown with this new wheel design is another story and doesn't look right at all. The offset flush/bowed spoke wheels on my Cobra don't look appropriate on the GN.