[s8v4ovic]

A good money making oppurtunity will arise after the shakeout. GGBIW:usflag:

Are you talking about the Dow? Buy after the crash? .....if it happens.

 

[ggbiw]

Are you talking about the Dow? Buy after the crash? .....if it happens.

Yes. It's very hard to call a bottom or high. If I get within a few hundred points of either when I buy and sell I'm happy. It looks like the Feds might not cut rates as the rest of the economy isn't bad off yet. If they don't it could get ugly. If you have the right to move your retirement funds between different mutual funds,get into liquid cash for awhile.They usually have something like a stable value fund or the like that you can park your money getting interest.If the market tanks in a panic ,That is when you start buying.You get that days price at market close. So check out if you are able to move funds in your retirement. There is a very good chance this is going to happen. GGBIW:headspin:

 

[MSP]

Man, the way this guy is telling the story, made me laugh so hard.. Its just unbelievable what the police did to some people! Read it!

Its really not funny, and I am not laughing at the protesters.. I am laughing because this shit is really going on.. Oh man! My stomach hurts..!

Its just so unbelievable..

They came in their thousands, in defiance of a month long fear and intimidation campaign by the state and federal governments, the police and the Murdoch media.

Of the more than 6000-8000 who marched, all but a few dozen protested peacefully, without violence or aggression. More than half of all protesters were women, hundreds of elderly people marched, joined by hundreds of families, with young children.

But the 2500 police deployed, backed by a full riot squad, a water cannon, backpacks full of pepper spray, dogs and snipers in a helicopter hovering above the crowd, were pumped for the long promised "worst riots ever seen in Sydney." A promise made only by the police and state government ministers over the past few weeks.

Protesters were wrestled to the ground, put in headlocks, had their arms twisted up behind their backs, had knees rammed into their spines and, in a number of assaults by police, were punched in the back and neck with a flurry of hard blows while being held down. Few of those assaulted and beaten displayed any resistance at all.

Dozens were removed from the Sydney protest on Saturday for taking photographs or video of police, dozens more were shoved, thrown to the ground and generally provoked. But still the crowd did not erupt into the expected mass violence and disordert.

An accountant, who crossed the street in the wrong place, was slammed onto the footpath and had his face rammed into the ground by at least six police officers. His young son stood nearby, clearly trembling in fear, as police wrestled the man who offered up no resistance, except to protect his glasses. He was held in a police cell for 22 hours and was denied contact with his lawyer and family members. Police didn't return his glasses until after he was released from custody.

But for all the violence unleashed on the protesters, only a few were arrested, and less than 10 face any charges at all. Two of the charges related to nudity. Some were detained for swearing, others were dragged away by police because they dared to question why someone else was being dragged away. Some were charged with resisting arrest. You could be arrested for resisting arrest by simply asking "why are you detaining me?"

The Orstrahyun

 

[ggbiw]

Interesting.They said they worried about it turning violent in the article.Wonder how Murdoch's paper portrays it. Protesting a trade summit?Free markets are good for the economy.Sounds like they wanted to protest president Bush more than anything else. GGBIW:usflag::dunno2:

 

[MSP]

It was a mistake! Don't be alarmed people!

Flying B52's filled with nuclear warheads over the United States of America, with no clear destination or justifiable reason why they were loaded happens all the time! We have it under control!

Get back to work!

U.S. bomber mistakenly flies with nuclear weapons | U.S. | Reuters

Here is some supporting information on how this could not ever happen by mistake... As you can clearly see, there are too many people and/or protocols involved for this to be a mistake..

Department of Defense
DIRECTIVE
NUMBER 4540.5
February 4, 1998
Certified Current as of December 8, 2003
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ATSD(NCB)
SUBJECT: Logistic Transportation of Nuclear Weapons
References: (a) DoD Directive 4540.5, "Movement of Nuclear Weapons by Noncombat Delivery Vehicles," June 14, 1978 (hereby canceled)
(b) Title 10, United States Code
(c) DoD 5025.1-M, "DoD Directives System Procedures," August 1994
(d) DoD Directive 3150.2, "DoD Nuclear Weapon System Safety Program," December 23, 1996
(e) through (h), see enclosure 1

1. REISSUANCE AND PURPOSE
This Directive:
1.1. Reissues reference (a) to update policy and responsibilities for the logistic transport of nuclear weapons under reference (b).
1.2. Authorizes the publication of the "DoD Nuclear Weapon Transportation Manual," consistent with reference (c), to provide guidance for the logistic transport of nuclear weapons.
1.3. Integrates DoD policy and responsibilities for the logistic transport of nuclear weapons with the safety requirements in reference (d), the security requirements in references (e) through (g), and the use control requirements in reference (h).

2. APPLICABILITY AND SCOPE
This Directive:
2.1. Applies to the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD), the Military Departments, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Combatant Commands, and the Defense Agencies (hereafter referred to collectively as "the DoD Components").
2.2. Does not apply to the transport of nuclear weapon limited-life components.

3. DEFINITIONS
Terms used in this Directive are defined in enclosure 2.

4. POLICY
It is DoD policy that:
4.1. Nuclear weapons require special consideration because of their political and military importance and the potential consequences of an accident, incident, or unauthorized act.
4.2. The DoD Components shall take precautions to ensure that a nuclear weapon movement has minimal impact on public health, safety, and the environment.
4.3. DoD nuclear weapon system safety policy, DoD nuclear weapon system safety standards, and DoD nuclear weapon security policy and criteria shall apply to nuclear weapon transport operations.
4.4. Nuclear weapon movements shall be kept to the minimum consistent with military requirements.
4.5. Nuclear weapon transportation operations shall be conducted through the transportation modes and movement routes that balance safety, security, and military requirements.
4.6. The movement by air of nuclear weapons that contain high explosives other than insensitive high explosives (IHE) should be approved by the Secretary of the Military Department or a Commander of a Combatant Command, or their delegated commanders.
4.7. Procedures, equipment, and facilities involved in the transport of nuclear weapons shall be certified for such transport.
4.8. Personnel and organizations involved in the transport of nuclear weapons shall be trained and certified for the activities they perform.
4.9. U.S. custody of nuclear weapons shall be maintained at all times during logistic movements. That requirement shall not be waived.
4.10. A commander may deviate from logistic transport policy when the loss of a weapon's custody is imminent or when the weapon may be exposed to an abnormal environment.
4.11. In areas outside the continental United States, command-disable procedures shall be used if loss of the weapon is imminent.

5. RESPONSIBILITIES
5.1. The Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Nuclear and Chemical and Biological Defense Programs, under the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Technology, shall:
5.1.1. Be responsible for policy and technical matters associated with the transportation of nuclear weapons.
5.1.2. Serve as the DoD principal point of contact for nuclear weapon transportation matters with the DoD Components, the Department of Energy (DoE), the Department of State, the Joint Nuclear Weapons Council, and other Government Agencies.
5.1.3. Ensure that the Director, Defense Special Weapons Agency, shall:
5.1.3.1. Provide technical support, advice, and assistance to the DoD Components on the transport of nuclear weapons, when requested.
5.1.3.2. Serve as the logistic transport coordinator between the DoD Components for inter-command movements and between the Department of Defense and the DoE.
5.1.3.3. Conduct safety and security assessments on nuclear weapon transportation, when requested.
5.2. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff shall:
5.2.1. Coordinate directly with the DoD Components on nuclear weapon transportation matters.
5.2.2. Ensure that nuclear weapons technical inspections examine nuclear weapon transport operations.
5.2.3. Establish procedures for the maintenance of accountability during nuclear weapon transport operations.
5.2.4. Prescribe the reporting procedures to be used when nuclear weapons are transported.
5.3. The Secretaries of the Military Departments shall:
5.3.1. Implement DoD nuclear weapon transportation policies.
5.3.2. Develop procedures for the transport of nuclear weapons.
5.3.3. Evaluate, authorize, and approve the transport modes and movement routes that balance safety, security, and military requirements for nuclear weapons in their custody.
5.3.4. Conduct assessments of nuclear weapon transport operations, as necessary.
5.3.5. Approve all movements conducted by air of nuclear weapons in their custody that contain high explosives other than IHE. Approval authority may be delegated to commanders of major Service commands.
5.3.6. Ensure that procedures, equipment, facilities, and organizations involved in the transport of nuclear weapons are certified for that purpose.
5.3.7. Ensure that personnel involved in the transport of nuclear weapons are applicably trained.
5.4. The Secretary of the Air Force shall maintain a Prime Nuclear Airlift Force capability to conduct the logistic transport of nuclear weapons.
5.5. The Commanders of the Combatant Commands shall:
5.5.1. Implement DoD nuclear weapon transportation policies.
5.5.2. Develop procedures, as required for their area of operations, for the transport of nuclear weapons.
5.5.3. Evaluate, authorize, and approve the transport modes and movement routes that balance safety, security, and military requirements for nuclear weapons in their custody.
5.5.4. Conduct assessments of nuclear weapon transport operations, as necessary.
5.5.5. Approve all movements conducted by air of nuclear weapons in their custody that contain high explosives other than IHE. Approval authority may be delegated to Service component commanders.
5.5.6. Ensure that procedures, equipment, facilities, and organizations involved in the transport of nuclear weapons are certified for such transport.
5.5.7. Ensure that personnel involved in the transport of nuclear weapons are applicably trained.

6. EFFECTIVE DATE
This Directive is effective immediately.

Enclosures - 2
E1. References, continued
E2. Definitions

 

[MSP]

Directive 4.6 is one of your clues..

 

[MSP]

Some of you who called me a lunatic should apologize... Apparently, the US Airforce thinks I am sane!

ACC orders commandwide standdown Friday - Military News, Air Force News, opinions, editorials, news from Iraq, photos, reports - Air Force Times

:dancing:

 

[JT]

I didn't write this letter just bringing it to your attention..

Here is the letter in full: ​

To the American people, and to peace loving individuals everywhere:
Massive evidence has come to our attention which shows that the backers, controllers, and allies of Vice President Dick Cheney are determined to orchestrate and manufacture a new 9/11 terror incident, and/or a new Gulf of Tonkin war provocation over the coming weeks and months. Such events would be used by the Bush administration as a pretext for launching an aggressive war against Iran, quite possibly with nuclear weapons, and for imposing a regime of martial law here in the United States. We call on the House of Representatives to proceed immediately to the impeachment of Cheney, as an urgent measure for avoiding a wider and more catastrophic war. Once impeachment has begun, it will be easier for loyal and patriotic military officers to refuse illegal orders coming from the Cheney faction. We solemnly warn the people of the world that any terrorist attack with weapons of mass destruction taking place inside the United States or elsewhere in the immediate future must be considered the prima facie responsibility of the Cheney faction. We urge responsible political leaders everywhere to begin at once to inoculate the public opinion of their countries against such a threatened false flag terror operation.
(Signed) A Group of US Opposition Political Leaders Gathered in Protest at the Bush Compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, August 24-25, 2007
CYNTHIA MCKINNEY, FORMER US CONGRESSWOMAN, GEORGIA CINDY SHEEHAN, CANDIDATE FOR US CONGRESS, CALIFORNIA CRAIG HILL, CANDIDATE FOR US CONGRESS, VERMONT GREEN PARTY BRUCE MARSHALL, CONVENOR, PHILADELPHIA PLATFORM JAMILLA EL-SHAFEI, KENNEBUNK PEACE DEPARTMENT WEBSTER G. TARPLEY, AUTHOR ANN WRIGHT, COLONEL US ARMY RESERVE, FORMER US DIPLOMAT DR. DAHLIA WASFI, www.liberatethis.com - Home GEORGE PAZ MARTIN JOHN KAMINSKI , PRESIDENT MAINE LAWYERS FOR DEMOCRACY

The letter was signed by the group at an anti war protest this weekend which saw four thousand march near the Bush family residence on Walker's Point in Kennebunkport. ​

The warning comes on the heels of a spate of recent news stories and reports indicating that "chatter" about a terror event is at an all time high. ​

Further evidence that some form of event is imminent has emerged with strange stock market activity occurring just as did in the weeks and days preceding 9/11. ​

A mystery trader risks losing around $1 billion dollars after placing 245,000 put options on the Dow Jones Eurostoxx 50 index, leading many analysts to speculate that a stock market crash preceded by a new 9/11 style catastrophe could take place within the next month. ​

The Kennebunkport group have demanded the immediate impeachment of Dick Cheney in order to prevent any such activities coming to fruition.

Well it is now 10/2 and the dow jones is at 14,047, which aside from yesterday's close at 14,087 is a record.

I guess this truly was all BS.

 

[MSP]

Well it is now 10/2 and the dow jones is at 14,047, which aside from yesterday's close at 14,087 is a record.

I guess this truly was all BS.

LOL!!

U.S. Congress agrees to raise national debt limit

Nice try!:bye:

 

[BIRD OF PRAY]

So the lib's are bad , Democrates are bad and Hilory is not good . Well , I guess your right, gas has gone down now that a guy that BANKROPTED a oil company (fact) is in office . Good thing the dollor is a laughing stock to rest of the world because Clinton waisted our money....No that's right , that happened under the ....well you know.........Republican. . and OH YEA I forgot , I guess if you do a good job ,"You" get fired over stuff you do on the side that "EVERYBODY" else does . WE HAD MONEY IN THE BANK AND PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD LOVED THE USA . BUT ALL THAT MEANS NOTHING IF YOU GET A HUMMER . No wounder we are now turning into girls . Even the cars coming out , look like there "comming-out" . Good thing your not (again) going to vote for some one who knows about money . I have friends in the ARMY who did'nt get paid . His dad sucked and brought us down and so did the son . period . Say one thing I said that's not fact . $3.00 for a gallon of gas in the USA . That makes me sick !!!!

 

[trueblueeyes]

BS? But, but, wait...It was signed by the esteemed former congresswoman Cynthia "slap-a-cop" McKinney and Cindy "even my own family disowned me" Sheehan. Surely you jest! You can't fool me. My pet rock is telling me you are a soldier of disinformation in Darth Chaney's secret army. I can hear the black helicopters now....The Sky Is Falling! The Sky Is Falling! :fear:

 

[MSP]

BS? But, but, wait...It was signed by the esteemed former congresswoman Cynthia "slap-a-cop" McKinney and Cindy "even my own family disowned me" Sheehan. Surely you jest! You can't fool me. My pet rock is telling me you are a soldier of disinformation in Darth Chaney's secret army. I can hear the black helicopters now....The Sky Is Falling! The Sky Is Falling! :fear:

Lets keep it in the new thread guys.. This one is dead..

Oh com-on trueblueeyes! Don't be upset because people here are getting informed..

Is trueblueeyes another word for Nazi? Blonde hair trueblueeyes?

You don't fool me.. :rofl: