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I am just pointing out the facts my brother Hylander.. I know the truth hurts..

I'll be here for you when you get sick of defending them brother!!:good:
Truth? What truth?
 
Turning a little homophobic in here?

To me, the problem with Craig isn't that he is gay, but that he is a hypocrite.

There are plenty of Gay democrats, but since the majority of them don't run around bashing gays, and same sex marrage, etc. they seem a little further down the hypocracy scale.

Speaking of gays, how about GW's gay prostitute overnight whitehouse visitor and press conference softball questioner,(Jeff Gannon alias Jeff Guckert), that the mainstream media totally ignored? What was up with that? Again, I have a problem with the hypocracy, not anyone's sexual preference.
I have no "phobia". I dont "fear" them, I just freakin dont like them. Such is my right.
 
All of you holy roller bible thumpers crack me up. The single most deterrent to world peace is organized religion. It is for all the sheep that need to be led around because they can't stand on there own 2 feet. Man will never be free as long as Religion continues. It allows the sheep to spew hate and intolerance while beating their chests in righteous indignation.
 
All of you holy roller bible thumpers crack me up. The single most deterrent to world peace is organized religion. It is for all the sheep that need to be led around because they can't stand on there own 2 feet. Man will never be free as long as Religion continues. It allows the sheep to spew hate and intolerance while beating their chests in righteous indignation.
+1,000,000
 
All of you holy roller bible thumpers crack me up. The single most deterrent to world peace is organized religion. It is for all the sheep that need to be led around because they can't stand on there own 2 feet. Man will never be free as long as Religion continues. It allows the sheep to spew hate and intolerance while beating their chests in righteous indignation.
Wow, way to to talk up tolerance.....
 
The problem we have here is it is the nature of man is that there is always an extreme of one side or another.

Quotes from the Bible are taken way out of context for either view and used for their own purposes without actually researching why it was actually written in the first place. Comments about 'religious people' are generalized against Christians as a whole because of what some are doing in the world, just like 'liberals' are generalized as a whole because you hear what the Clintons, Kennedy's, or the homosexual rights groups are doing.

Each person should be looked at independently and not put in a box with everyone else.

I am a Christian and I do not share the beliefs that MSP shares. Nor do I believe all that Bush does, even though he professes to be a Christian. We are not perfect, contrary to some beliefs. And contrary to some beliefs, we do preach tolerance which is contrary to some liberal beliefs that they preach tolerance as well.

So, don't lump everyone in the same box. It shows how intolerant one is and does not help the debate in any way, shape or form at all.
 
All of you holy roller bible thumpers crack me up. The single most deterrent to world peace is organized religion. It is for all the sheep that need to be led around because they can't stand on there own 2 feet. Man will never be free as long as Religion continues. It allows the sheep to spew hate and intolerance while beating their chests in righteous indignation.
I am a bible reader.Where have I spewed hate? I do ask god for help and he said "I will never leave you nor forsake you" so I don't stand on my two feet. I give the lord the glory in everything I succeed in. What I state is from the bible.So your problem is with the bible,not the people who believe it. Again,"Every knee shall bow,every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is lord". That includes you. GGBIW:yahoo:
 
All of you holy roller bible thumpers crack me up. The single most deterrent to world peace is organized religion. It is for all the sheep that need to be led around because they can't stand on there own 2 feet. Man will never be free as long as Religion continues. It allows the sheep to spew hate and intolerance while beating their chests in righteous indignation.
I couldn't agree more.
 
I couldn't agree more.
I guess what it amounts to is tolerance only means as long as people believe your way, you are tolerant of them. :)

It is a shame society has turned down this path. Everyone has a right to make their own choice and to live that choice. That choice should be respected, no matter what the believe of the other individual is. It does not mean it has to be agreed with, just needs to be respected.

Everyone has a right to an opinion. It is when an opinion is pushed on someone and if someone does not agree and the person giving the opinion then belittles and others stand with the person belittling, it shows the true nature of how far society has spiraled down that their way is the only way.
 
I don't go door to door handing out pamphlets trying to convert people to my way of thought. I don't send out missionaries to third world countries to convert the "heathens" to my way of thought. I don't wage war on those who don't agree with my way of thought. These behaviors are those of the religious and why they a a pox on the face of the earth. I will bow down to no one and I accept responsibility for my own actions.
 
I don't go door to door handing out pamphlets trying to convert people to my way of thought. I don't send out missionaries to third world countries to convert the "heathens" to my way of thought. I don't wage war on those who don't agree with my way of thought. These behaviors are those of the religious and why they a a pox on the face of the earth. I will bow down to no one and I accept responsibility for my own actions.
Wait, so you think it is wrong for someone to talk to someone else about their beliefs?

Now, I agree with you about waging war with people who don't agree with your way of thought. Though, I think war is sometimes necessary when atrocities are committed against humanity.

I see nothing wrong with sending out missionaries as well. There is nothing wrong with trying to make the world a better place.

I could use the reverse, where politicians pass laws that say, abortion is legal, that welfare should be given to people. Free healthcare should be given. You have the write to vote. They are pushing this all on you. How dare they!!!

You seem to have a hatred for any who do not share your view of the world. And if they do not agree with you, then they are evil.. While, you are entitled to your view, it seems you want this world to be one way...your way...Any other view is simply wrong.
 
I don't go door to door handing out pamphlets trying to convert people to my way of thought. I don't send out missionaries to third world countries to convert the "heathens" to my way of thought. I don't wage war on those who don't agree with my way of thought. These behaviors are those of the religious and why they a a pox on the face of the earth. I will bow down to no one and I accept responsibility for my own actions.
Every means you too. You will bow down to the lord. He created you. Sounds like your full of yourself. "Every knee shall bow,every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord". Some willingly,some in terror. Which do you chose to be? GGBIW:headspin:
 
So, don't lump everyone in the same box. It shows how intolerant one is and does not help the debate in any way, shape or form at all.
I wish the pathetic liberals .......
Are you telling everyone else not to lump or are you telling yourself.

I agreed with the statement you made about the extremist on both sides of the fence. They do give each other a bad rep.

What I don't get is all the bickering from the "sides". We are all in this boat together. I'm pro "The People" and if that gets me labeled as being a "liberal" then so be it. You guys can label all you want it doesn't really bother me. Instead of fighting each other why not fight the forces that hold us back as a nation for the people.

As for the alleged "religous" and religous alike, I though we were supposed to "love thy neighbor". I missed the part where the Bible says "love thy neighbor unless he is a democrat, republican, liberal, etc". Where the tolerance on that end? I fail to see it. I didn't know God cared what you are politically, I guess I was wrong.

I'm sure the religious will remember this one...."He who is without sin cast the first stone"

Anyway I'm done.....

GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Are you telling everyone else not to lump or are you telling yourself.

I agreed with the statement you made about the extremist on both sides of the fence. They do give each other a bad rep.

What I don't get is all the bickering from the "sides". We are all in this boat together. I'm pro "The People" and if that gets me labeled as being a "liberal" then so be it. You guys can label all you want it doesn't really bother me. Instead of fighting each other why not fight the forces that hold us back as a nation for the people.

As for the alleged "religous" and religous alike, I though we were supposed to "love thy neighbor". I missed the part where the Bible says "love thy neighbor unless he is a democrat, republican, liberal, etc". Where the tolerance on that end? I fail to see it. I didn't know God cared what you are politically, I guess I was wrong.

I'm sure the religious will remember this one...."He who is without sin cast the first stone"

Anyway I'm done.....

GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I said the pathetic liberals to make a point. Sorry about that.

We are supposed to love our neighbors:)

LSU kicked butt last night :)
 
When you love someone,you certainly don't want them to go to hell. My best friend is a screaming liberal. He tells me that we have to raise taxes on the corporations all the time. He can't understand that corporations will raise the price of there goods to pay those taxes. Pretty inflationary to say the least. Truth will always be truth. We do need to be tolerant of each others view . Jesus said that if you're ashamed of him he will also be ashamed of you on judgement day. GGBIW:headspin:
 
He tells me that we have to raise taxes on the corporations all the time. He can't understand that corporations will raise the price of there goods to pay those taxes. Pretty inflationary to say the least.
I agree with you but to an extent, but I would rather have a chance to not buy something or boycott a company than have a huge chuck of my wages taken away automatically.

Besides where's the law that says the government is allowed to garnish our wages. The whole income tax was implemented during WWII to help fund the war but was never lifted, but there is no law requiring an American citizen to pay a direct unapportioned tax on their labor.......period

Anyway that's a whole other tangent for a different thread......
 
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