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3K views 20 replies 6 participants last post by  03_StangGuy  
#1 ·
so im getting ready to put in an oil separator since there's a crap load of oil in my intake which does nothing good. my question is this, are the holes in the factory valve covers sufficient to relieve the pressures that are built up in the block at higher rpm. i know a lot of people use separators with the stock covers but has anyone ever researched to see if they are sufficient? also, do you guys keep the pvc or toss it?

car is a 2k GT with built engine and a KB 2.1L. rev limiter is set to 6700rpm. thanks for any info you guys have.
 
#2 ·
I ran a separator and threw it in the garbage after about a month. It doesn't work on a boosted engine. I had just as much oil blowing past the separator, as I did without it. I'm venting my valve covers to my exhaust after using breathers for about a year, I got sick of wiping oil off of the valve covers.

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#4 ·
I ran a separator and threw it in the garbage after about a month. It doesn't work on a boosted engine. I had just as much oil blowing past the separator, as I did without it. I'm venting my valve covers to my exhaust after using breathers for about a year, I got sick of wiping oil off of the valve covers.

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What kind of seperator did you run?
 
#6 · (Edited)
At the time guys were using separators for compressed air systems that you can buy at Home Depot, that one didn't work, so I bought a commercial oil coelesing filter and it worked ok.

If you vent the valve covers to the exhaust you will never have to drain a separator or catch can EVER.
 
#9 ·
How do you connect it to the exhaust? Wouldnt that allow exhaust gas to enter the block?
The hot exhaust moving through the pipes cause a negative pressure or it creates suction if you hook a pipe into the exhaust and then to the breathers.

It's an old hot rod trick. I am going to delete my EGR and run the breathers to the EGR tube.
 
#14 · (Edited)
The egr is designed to send air back into the intake. I would think that the exhaust pressure would be higher than the crankcase pressure. It may have worked on older hot rods but new engines have tighter tolerances and less blow by so there should be minimal pressure.
If you delete the EGR then how is exhaust going to flow into the intake? Doesn't manifold vacuum suck exhaust gases into the intake? YES, without manifold vacuum then you wouldn't get exhaust gases into the intake throught the EGR. Exhaust gas velocity creates vacuum thus running the breather to the exhaust will create crankcase vacuum, therefore sucking out crankcase blowby into the exhaust not the otherway around.

It has nothing to do with engine build tolerances.LOL...

Here is a modular specific example from Edlebrock

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/instructions/edl-6560-victorseriesdragraceh.pdf

You can use seperators if you like, I found a better way IMO
 
#19 · (Edited)
Just cuz It done doesnt mean its right, have you tested this. Your "Point" is correct if it works how you says but the fluid dynamics of an exhaust system leads me to believe it wont work as you say.
It has been done before, so yes it works.

Maybe it won't work utilizing the EGR tube, but I'll give it a shot and let everyone know? My gut tells me if it will work in a header collector then it will work utilizing the EGR tube.

turbocooler, sorry to highjack your thread when you were asking about oil separators. I've been down the separator road before, with no success of eliminating oil in the intake. IMO, the only way to eliminate oil in the intake is to use breathers, a catchcan, or plumbing the covers to the exhaust.
 
#20 ·
i would think that the exhaust pulsing out the header tubes would create a vaccuum through the egr tube. So what you said would prob work. Tee both valve covers into one line, cut the egr tube down somewhere and slip the tube over it. Sounds like it would work without having to run a tube all the way down to the rear o2 ports. Pretty sure that's how all the fox body guys do it (run it to exhaust)